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Clintavo's avatar

I’ve had the same experiences with no drugs just meditation. No apps. I started three years ago and committed to an hour a day for 90 days, after that i backed off a bit. I now do at least 30 minutes to an hour. I think, without drugs, ten minutes isn’t enough (at first, it is now) to “jump start.” The states take a whike to get into and it takes your mind developing awareness and focused attention. I now get into pretty “altered” states, colored fractal vision, energy fields i can feel, a sense of one with all, and even jhana a few times, I’m excited to see you discover it. My main point is for beginners who don’t have drug access is that committing to more time may get you to these states faster.

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HAI's avatar

That's a good metaphor for how do explain swimming. I guess that goes for any thing. How to explain the scent a rose? Just one sniff and know it. It's too hard or almost impossible to envision what the smell is.

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